Living in Ecuador on Income from Outside: the Rentista Visa and the Nomad Variant
Answer
The general rule applies to you
No exception is recorded for citizens of Colombia on this topic. That is the answer, not a gap - everything below is the rule you get, unchanged.
81 exceptions recorded across 33 countries · none match Colombia to Ecuador · Residency on passive income
Ecuador's income route is the rentista visa: two years of temporary residence, renewable without limit, against proof of monthly lawful income of at least three minimum wages - USD 1,446 a month in 2026. Unusually for the region, the regulation lets that income come from Ecuadorian as well as foreign sources, so an Ecuadorian rental contract counts. A separate sub-category, the rentista para trabajo remoto that the ministry markets as the Visa Nómada, applies the same three-wage test to foreign-source earnings and lets you satisfy it annually instead of monthly. Both require health insurance valid for the whole visa period.
At a glance
- Income threshold
- 3 minimum wages a month - USD 1,446 in 2026CALC (calculated by us, not published)as of 2026-01-01
Derived: the instrument states the threshold in Salarios Básicos Unificados. The SBU for 2026 is USD 482, fixed by Acuerdo Ministerial MDT-2025-195, which is cited as a source on this fact. Ecuador uses the US dollar, so the figure moves only when the wage is reset each January, not with an exchange rate.
- Remote-work variant, annual alternative
- 36 minimum wages a year - USD 17,352 in 2026CALC (calculated by us, not published)as of 2026-01-01
Derived: the instrument states the threshold in Salarios Básicos Unificados. The SBU for 2026 is USD 482, fixed by Acuerdo Ministerial MDT-2025-195, which is cited as a source on this fact. Ecuador uses the US dollar, so the figure moves only when the wage is reset each January, not with an exchange rate.
- Where the income may come from
- Abroad or from Ecuadorian sources
The regulation says 'en el exterior o en territorio ecuatoriano'. The remote-work variant is narrower and requires foreign-source income.
- Visa length
- 2 years, renewable on multiple occasions
- Health insurance
- Required for the whole visa period
- Each dependent
- USD 250 of additional monthly income
Article 63 of the Reglamento a la Ley Orgánica de Movilidad Humana writes it out - doscientos cincuenta (250) dólares estadounidenses - and, unlike the main threshold, states it as a fixed sum rather than as a multiple of the minimum wage, so it does not move with the January wage settlement.
- Fee
- USD 50 to apply, USD 270 on grant
- Route to permanent residence
- 21 continuous months as a resident
From the general rule in article 63 numeral 1 of the Ley Orgánica de Movilidad Humana and article 83 numeral 1 of its Reglamento, which apply to every resident category rather than to this one. Continuity has its own definition in article 84 of the Reglamento: no more than ninety days outside Ecuador across the whole life of the temporary visa.
Figures marked CALC are our arithmetic, not a figure in any instrument. Where the law states a threshold as a multiple of something else, the amount shown is that multiple applied - and it moves when the underlying figure does.
Requirements
- Proof of monthly lawful income in your own name of at least three Salarios Básicos Unificados - rental contracts, investment certificates and similar documents are the examples the regulation gives
- For the remote-work variant: foreign-source income of at least three minimum wages a month for the three months before the application, or 36 minimum wages over the year, evidenced by international bank statements
- For the remote-work variant: documents showing you work for, or own, a business or client domiciled abroad
- Health insurance, Ecuadorian or foreign, valid for the same period as the visa; a foreign policy must state that it covers Ecuador
- A passport valid for at least six months
- A criminal record certificate from your country of origin or of residence over the last five years, apostilled or legalised, no more than 180 days old at your last entry
- Payment of the fee set by the human mobility authority
- An extra USD 250 of monthly income for each dependent brought under the visa
In detail
Ecuadorian income counts, which is unusual
Most of the region's income visas insist the money arrives from abroad. Argentina's rentista requires income 'provenientes del exterior'; Ecuador's own remote-work sub-category requires 'ingresos de fuente extranjera'. The ordinary rentista does not: the regulation accepts lawful monthly income 'en el exterior o en territorio ecuatoriano', and names lease contracts as an example. Someone with an Ecuadorian rental property can qualify on Ecuadorian rent.
Two wage-linked thresholds, one dollar country
The rentista and the remote-work variant both ask for three minimum wages a month. In 2026 that is USD 1,446. The number is not exposed to a currency slide, because Ecuador uses the US dollar: it moves once a year, in January, when the Ministerio del Trabajo fixes the Salario Básico Unificado. The 2026 figure of USD 482 was agreed unanimously by the tripartite wage council, a twelve-dollar rise on 2025.
The remote-work visa is a rentista, not a separate status
The ministry brands it the Visa Nómada, but legally it is a sub-category of rentista under article 64 of the regulation: same two-year length, same insurance requirement, same USD 250 per dependent. What differs is the source test - foreign income only - the option to prove 36 minimum wages annually rather than three monthly, and a requirement that the applicant's nationality appears on a list drawn up by the Ministerio de Turismo. The ministry's page records that the list, set by two 2022 official letters, covers all countries.
Country-level policy
Ecuador does not put dollar figures in its immigration rules. It writes them as multiples of the Salario Básico Unificado, the monthly minimum wage, which the Ministerio del Trabajo fixes by ministerial agreement each December for the year ahead. The rentista and pension thresholds are three wages, the investor threshold is a hundred, the customs ceiling on work equipment is a hundred and sixty, the tourist extension fee is a third of one, and the overstay penalty is one. For 2026 the wage is USD 482, twelve dollars above 2025. Because Ecuador uses the US dollar, none of these figures drifts between settlements - which is the opposite of the position in Argentina, Colombia, Chile, Peru or Uruguay, where a dollar-denominated threshold moves with the exchange rate every day.
Since December 2023 a newcomer who has never been an Ecuadorian tax resident can elect a regime that taxes only Ecuadorian-source income for five years, and the same law attaches a five-year temporary residence visa to it instead of the ordinary two. The entry ticket is either USD 150,000 invested in Ecuadorian property or productive activity, held for five years, or proven non-Ecuadorian income of USD 2,500 a month together with enrolment in Ecuadorian social security for the whole stay. Both have to be in place within 120 days of first entering the country, which makes this a decision to take before arriving rather than after settling in.
What applies to you
Nothing changes for a citizen of Colombia
We have no rule recorded that treats your citizenship differently here, so the general rule above is the one that applies to you. That is an answer, not a gap.
What the law says
«Rentista: para quien cuenta con recursos propios traídos desde el exterior, con la renta que estos produzcan o de cualquier otro ingreso lícito proveniente de fuente externa o que cuente con recursos de fuente ecuatoriana;»Our translation - not official
Rentista: for a person who has their own resources brought in from abroad, the income these produce, or any other lawful income from an external source, or who has resources of Ecuadorian source;
The closing clause matters and is easy to lose. Argentina's rentista income must come from abroad - 'provenientes del exterior'. Ecuador's need not.
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«Es la condición migratoria que autoriza la estadía de hasta dos años en el territorio ecuatoriano, renovable por múltiples ocasiones, a las que acceden las personas extranjeras que ingresan al país dentro de las siguientes categorías:»Our translation - not official
It is the migration status that authorises a stay of up to two years in Ecuadorian territory, renewable on multiple occasions, available to foreign persons who enter the country within the following categories:
'Renovable por múltiples ocasiones' is the 2023 wording. The ministry's own Mercosur page still quotes the earlier text, 'sujeta a renovación por una sola vez'.
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Para la emisión de la categoría de rentista, a más de los requisitos generales contemplados en la Ley Orgánica de Movilidad Humana, deberá presentar los documentos que certifiquen el ingreso mensual de rentas lícitas a título personal en el exterior o en territorio ecuatoriano, tales como contratos de arrendamiento, títulos de inversión y otros similares, iguales o superiores a (3) tres Salarios Básicos Unificados del trabajador en general, los cuales deberán ser apostillados en caso de haber sido emitidos en un país parte del Convenio de la Apostilla de La Haya; y, legalizados si han sido emitidos en un país que no sea parte de dicho convenio.»Our translation - not official
For the issue of the rentista category, in addition to the general requirements set out in the Ley Orgánica de Movilidad Humana, the applicant must present documents certifying monthly lawful income in their own name abroad or in Ecuadorian territory, such as lease contracts, investment certificates and similar, equal to or greater than three (3) Salarios Básicos Unificados of the worker in general, which must be apostilled if issued in a country party to the Hague Apostille Convention, and legalised if issued in a country that is not party to that convention.
The threshold is expressed in minimum wages, so it moves every January without any instrument about immigration changing.
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Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Adicionalmente, deberá presentar un seguro de salud nacional o extranjero vigente por el mismo período del visado. En caso de ser contratado con una compañía extranjera, la póliza o el contrato deberá indicar que tiene cobertura en el Ecuador.»Our translation - not official
In addition, the applicant must present current Ecuadorian or foreign health insurance for the same period as the visa. If it is contracted with a foreign company, the policy or contract must state that it has coverage in Ecuador.
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Demostrar ingresos de fuente extranjera de al menos tres (3) Salarios Básicos Unificados por mes, de los tres (3) meses previos a la solicitud de visa, o contar con un total de treinta y seis (36) Salarios Básicos Unificados por cada año, para lo cual la persona extranjera deberá adjuntar copias de sus estados de cuenta internacional donde se reflejen dichos ingresos;»Our translation - not official
Demonstrate foreign-source income of at least three (3) Salarios Básicos Unificados per month, for the three (3) months before the visa application, or hold a total of thirty-six (36) Salarios Básicos Unificados for each year, for which the foreign person must attach copies of their international account statements reflecting that income;
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Terminado el procedimiento y emitida la visa electrónica, la persona extranjera remitirá físicamente al órgano administrativo que otorgó la visa, en el plazo de un (1) mes, todos los documentos que motivaron su emisión. El incumplimiento a esta obligación se entenderá como que han desaparecido los hechos que justificaron la concesión de la visa y, por lo tanto, la autoridad de movilidad humana podrá cancelarla de oficio.»Our translation - not official
Once the procedure is complete and the electronic visa issued, the foreign person shall physically send to the administrative body that granted the visa, within one (1) month, all the documents that supported its issue. Failure to comply with this obligation shall be understood as meaning that the facts justifying the grant of the visa have ceased to exist and, therefore, the human mobility authority may cancel it of its own motion.
A trap specific to the remote-work visa: the electronic grant is provisional until the paper originals arrive, and the sanction for missing the month is cancellation.
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«El Salario Básico Unificado del trabajador en general, incluidos los trabajadores de la pequeña industria, trabajadores agrícolas, trabajadores de maquila, trabajadores remunerados del hogar, operarios de artesanías y colaboradores de la microempresa, se fija en cuatrocientos ochenta y dos dólares de los Estados Unidos de América (US$ 482,00), a partir del 01 de enero de 2026.»Our translation - not official
The Salario Básico Unificado of the worker in general, including workers in small industry, agricultural workers, maquila workers, paid domestic workers, artisan operatives and microenterprise collaborators, is set at four hundred and eighty-two United States dollars (US$ 482.00), from 1 January 2026.
This is the input that turns every threshold in this fact from a multiple into a dollar figure. Ecuador is dollarised, so the figure is stable between annual wage settlements.
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Fixes the Salario Básico Unificado by ministerial agreement each December for the following year. That figure is the input behind every immigration threshold in Ecuador, none of which is written in dollars.
Standing: Issues the instrument
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for immigration rules, nor for sectoral minimum wages beyond the general SBU. It publishes its agreements as signed PDFs rather than consolidations, so it is not the source for the current text of one that has been amended. Practically, its acuerdos index refuses to load through extraction; the download endpoint works.
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«Es la condición migratoria que autoriza la estadía en el territorio nacional de manera indefinida a la que acceden las personas que cumplan al menos una de las siguientes condiciones: 1. Cumplir al menos veintiún meses continuos de permanencia en el Ecuador, en calidad de residente y presentar la solicitud correspondiente, previo al vencimiento de la residencia que ostente, conforme con lo determinado en el Reglamento de esta Ley;»Our translation - not official
It is the migration status that authorises indefinite stay in the national territory, available to persons who meet at least one of the following conditions: 1. Complete at least twenty-one continuous months of stay in Ecuador as a resident and file the corresponding application before the expiry of the residence held, in accordance with what the Regulation to this Law determines;
This is the general condition for permanent residence and it applies to every temporary category, not to one route. It is quoted on each record that states the twenty-one months.
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Art. 83.- Visa de residencia permanente.- Para obtener la visa de residencia permanente la persona extranjera deberá cumplir con una de las siguientes condiciones: 1. Acreditar veintiún meses (21) continuos de permanencia en el Ecuador, en calidad de residente, y presentar la solicitud de visa, previo al vencimiento de la residencia que haya obtenido;»Our translation - not official
Art. 83. Permanent residence visa. To obtain the permanent residence visa the foreign person must meet one of the following conditions: 1. Evidence twenty-one (21) continuous months of stay in Ecuador as a resident, and file the visa application before the expiry of the residence obtained;
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Para efectos de la continuidad de la permanencia la persona extranjera no podrá ausentarse del país por un tiempo superior a noventa (90) días durante todo el tiempo de vigencia de su visa de residencia temporal.»Our translation - not official
For the purposes of continuity of stay the foreign person may not be absent from the country for more than ninety (90) days over the whole life of their temporary residence visa.
The twenty-one months must be continuous, and this is what continuous means: ninety days of absence across the entire temporary visa, not per year.
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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«Para que el titular de esta categoría pueda amparar a otras personas, deberá justificar ingresos mensuales adicionales de doscientos cincuenta (250) dólares estadounidenses por cada persona amparada.»Our translation - not official
For the holder of this category to sponsor other persons, they must evidence additional monthly income of two hundred and fifty (250) United States dollars for each person sponsored.
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The state's regulations registry. Hosts consolidated texts of laws, decrees and ministerial agreements, each PDF carrying a 'Normativa: Vigente' marker and an 'Última Reforma' line, with amendments attributed article by article.
Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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Practical notes
The rentista fee appears on the ministry's page as USD 50 to apply and USD 270 on grant, priced under heading 8.5.1 of the 2023 consular tariff as a 'lucrative category'. Over-65s pay half and holders of an Ecuadorian disability card of 30 per cent or more pay nothing.
Applications run only through the ministry's e-Visas platform, and an application that is not paid for by 23h55 on the day it is filed is deleted and has to be re-entered.
The regulation nowhere states how many months of income statements an ordinary rentista must show; only the remote-work variant specifies three months. The ministry may ask for more under the catch-all 'demás documentos que la autoridad requiera'.
A rentista who wants to go on to permanent residence must watch absences: the regulation allows no more than 90 days outside Ecuador across the whole life of the temporary visa, which is stricter than the statute's own rule that temporary residence does not limit time spent abroad.
- consolidatesLey Orgánica de Movilidad Humana - texto vigente con la última reforma de 14-VII-2025
Registro de regulaciones del Estado ecuatoriano (gob.ec)
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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- consolidatesReglamento a la Ley Orgánica de Movilidad Humana - texto vigente con la última reforma de 18-XI-2025
Registro de regulaciones del Estado ecuatoriano (gob.ec)
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Standing: Maintains the text in force
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for currency. The landing pages carry the state's own warning that the information is referencial and may be out of date, and the consolidations are produced by a commercial legal publisher under state hosting rather than by the gazette. A consolidation appears months after the reform it folds in: the July 2025 LOMH reform surfaced in a September 2025 file. For the date and issue number of an instrument, the Registro Oficial is the authority, not this.
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- administersConcesión de visa de residencia temporal rentista
Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores y Movilidad Humana (catálogo de trámites, gob.ec)
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One page per visa procedure, with requirements, fees, validity and a legal basis panel. Pages carry a last-updated date and monthly usage statistics.
Standing: Applies the rule
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for what the law says. Its legal basis panels demonstrably quote superseded statutory text - the tourist pages still carry the pre-July-2025 wording of LOMH art. 56, and the Mercosur page quotes an art. 60 renumbered in 2021. Cite it for fees, forms, channels and processing, and read the statute for the rule.
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- administersConcesión de visa de residencia temporal rentista para trabajo remoto (Visa Nómada)
Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores y Movilidad Humana (catálogo de trámites, gob.ec)
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One page per visa procedure, with requirements, fees, validity and a legal basis panel. Pages carry a last-updated date and monthly usage statistics.
Standing: Applies the rule
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for what the law says. Its legal basis panels demonstrably quote superseded statutory text - the tourist pages still carry the pre-July-2025 wording of LOMH art. 56, and the Mercosur page quotes an art. 60 renumbered in 2021. Cite it for fees, forms, channels and processing, and read the statute for the rule.
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- issuesAcuerdo Ministerial Nro. MDT-2025-195 - Salario Básico Unificado para el año 2026
Ministerio del Trabajo
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Fixes the Salario Básico Unificado by ministerial agreement each December for the following year. That figure is the input behind every immigration threshold in Ecuador, none of which is written in dollars.
Standing: Issues the instrument
Cannot be cited for: Cannot be cited for immigration rules, nor for sectoral minimum wages beyond the general SBU. It publishes its agreements as signed PDFs rather than consolidations, so it is not the source for the current text of one that has been amended. Practically, its acuerdos index refuses to load through extraction; the download endpoint works.
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